Comments on: Pistons Struggles: Not All Iverson http://www.basketball.org/pistons-struggles-not-all-iverson/ Enhancing the abilities of basketball players, teams and coaches Wed, 01 Feb 2012 01:21:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: NLP Zine http://www.basketball.org/pistons-struggles-not-all-iverson/comment-page-1/#comment-1790 NLP Zine Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:06:44 +0000 http://www.basketball.org/?p=1231#comment-1790 What an excellent blog, I've added your feed to my RSS reader. :-) What an excellent blog, I’ve added your feed to my RSS reader. :-)

]]> By: Leo http://www.basketball.org/pistons-struggles-not-all-iverson/comment-page-1/#comment-977 Leo Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:51:56 +0000 http://www.basketball.org/?p=1231#comment-977 I don't understand why everyone treats the pistons as if they are the defending champs every year. They are mentioned as the team to beat in the east. here's some facts the last time Detroit was good was 2005. That is the last time they were Eastern conference champs. 2004 - won championship 2005 - eastern conference champs (lost to spurs) 2006 - Miami Heat - eastern conference champs 2007 - cavaliers " 2008 - celtics " 2009 I don’t understand why everyone treats the pistons as if they are the defending champs every year. They are mentioned as the team to beat in the east.

here’s some facts

the last time Detroit was good was 2005. That is the last time they were Eastern conference champs.

2004 – won championship
2005 – eastern conference champs (lost to spurs)
2006 – Miami Heat – eastern conference champs
2007 – cavaliers ”
2008 – celtics ”
2009

]]> By: Jolt http://www.basketball.org/pistons-struggles-not-all-iverson/comment-page-1/#comment-891 Jolt Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:09:53 +0000 http://www.basketball.org/?p=1231#comment-891 Years past does not need an apostrophe. Years past does not need an apostrophe.

]]> By: hal miller http://www.basketball.org/pistons-struggles-not-all-iverson/comment-page-1/#comment-888 hal miller Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:06:14 +0000 http://www.basketball.org/?p=1231#comment-888 This wholesale scapgoating of Iverson for the Pistons' struggles misses the mark completely and in the process maligns a future hall-of-famer who, in my opinion, is the most victimized player in Detroit's offense. First of all, let's bear in mind that for most of his stay, Iverson has been buried somewhere on the wing or in the corner because Tayshaun Prince has been acting as point forward and Rasheed Wallace. When Rodney Stuckney plays the pg position, he thinks shot first and when he does look to set up others, invariably he passes to his right where Rip Hamilton is. He almost never passes or dribbles to his left where Iverson is. The result is that one of the still most potent and dangerous guards in the history of the NBA averages between 8-10 shots per game. Incredible! And probably three of those shots are bail-out heaves when he's thrown the ball in desperation with the shot clock running out. Iverson, to his credit, doesn't mope and still seems to be determined to be a distributor in this offense. Virtually forgotten is the impact of the loss of McDyess, which has had a disastrous effect on the rotation and which has made it virtually impossible for the team to have Rasheed 20-25 feet from the basket. McDyess is a rebounder and accurate shooter from the 10-15 ft range. Once he left, playing Brown or Amiri at center became a liability the team simply couldn't afford. McDyess is back and he's already having a positive impact. My suggestion, put the ball in Iverson's hands, tell him to shoot 15-20 times per game, and play Stuckey with the second unit. Yeah, Stuckey's got potential-at his best he reminds me of the assassin,Andrew Toney- but he's so intent on scoring that he makes almost no attempt to pass to-much less defer to-Iverson. So let him be the first guard off the bench for A.I. or Rip. He'll still get his minutes. And fans, stop all this whining about Hamilton not getting his shots. He's leading the team in shots taken and Iverson consistently finds him when he's in motion. Hal Miller This wholesale scapgoating of Iverson for the Pistons’ struggles misses the mark completely and in the process maligns a future hall-of-famer who, in my opinion, is the most victimized player in Detroit’s offense.
First of all, let’s bear in mind that for most of his stay, Iverson has been buried somewhere on the wing or in the corner because Tayshaun Prince has been acting as point forward and Rasheed Wallace. When Rodney Stuckney plays the pg position, he thinks shot first and when he does look to set up others, invariably he passes to his right where Rip Hamilton is. He almost never passes or dribbles to his left where Iverson is. The result is that one of the still most potent and dangerous guards in the history of the NBA averages between 8-10 shots per game. Incredible! And probably three of those shots are bail-out heaves when he’s thrown the ball in desperation with the shot clock running out.
Iverson, to his credit, doesn’t mope and still seems to be determined to be a distributor in this offense.
Virtually forgotten is the impact of the loss of McDyess, which has had a disastrous effect on the rotation and which has made it virtually impossible for the team to have Rasheed 20-25 feet from the basket. McDyess is a rebounder and accurate shooter from the 10-15 ft range. Once he left, playing Brown or Amiri at center became a liability the team simply couldn’t afford.
McDyess is back and he’s already having a positive impact. My suggestion, put the ball in Iverson’s hands, tell him to shoot 15-20 times per game, and play Stuckey with the second unit. Yeah, Stuckey’s got potential-at his best he reminds me of the assassin,Andrew Toney- but he’s so intent on scoring that he makes almost no attempt to pass to-much less defer to-Iverson. So let him be the first guard off the bench for A.I. or Rip. He’ll still get his minutes.
And fans, stop all this whining about Hamilton not getting his shots. He’s leading the team in shots taken and Iverson consistently finds him when he’s in motion.
Hal Miller

]]> By: George http://www.basketball.org/pistons-struggles-not-all-iverson/comment-page-1/#comment-886 George Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:12:30 +0000 http://www.basketball.org/?p=1231#comment-886 I've been planning on writing a blog on the two teams who have been very successful in the past, and now, have made big changes this season in an effort to give themselves a better chance to win a championship. Both Phoenix and Detroit have made large gambles. Concerning this blog, I think everybody is being a little too impatient. The Pistons made a huge change when they traded Billups, their point guard and leader on the floor, for Iverson. Iverson is not a point. Detroit is having to make an adjustment to a new point. Actually, one could argue that Prince is actually becoming their point, a page out of Don Nelson's playbook. Iverson is a gambling defender, not the solid defender like Billups is. Another big adjustment as Detroit has lived on their defense for a number of years. Also, the chemistry in the locker room has been changed a great deal. Nobody can call Iverson a wall flower, who tries to just fit in. All those changes need time to work out, and needs time in order to make a solid judgment about how it's worked out. Pertaining to Dumars and Curry, I think Joe has proven himself to be a solid GM. I trust that he had solid reasons for this change. With Curry, he's a young and inexperienced coach. However, I knew when I was coaching him that he possessed good coaching qualities. He's bright. He's a very hard worker. He has good knowledge of the game. He's only 20-30 games into his first season. He's been given a real challenge with this trade. Give him time to feel things out. A coach always wants to have a talented team, but it can be a double edged sword. In this particular case, only getting to the Finals will suffice. That's a lot of pressure, but, as a coach, I would rather have that pressure than having less talent, and no chance to win. I’ve been planning on writing a blog on the two teams who have been very successful in the past, and now, have made big changes this season in an effort to give themselves a better chance to win a championship. Both Phoenix and Detroit have made large gambles.
Concerning this blog, I think everybody is being a little too impatient. The Pistons made a huge change when they traded Billups, their point guard and leader on the floor, for Iverson. Iverson is not a point. Detroit is having to make an adjustment to a new point. Actually, one could argue that Prince is actually becoming their point, a page out of Don Nelson’s playbook. Iverson is a gambling defender, not the solid defender like Billups is. Another big adjustment as Detroit has lived on their defense for a number of years. Also, the chemistry in the locker room has been changed a great deal. Nobody can call Iverson a wall flower, who tries to just fit in. All those changes need time to work out, and needs time in order to make a solid judgment about how it’s worked out.
Pertaining to Dumars and Curry, I think Joe has proven himself to be a solid GM. I trust that he had solid reasons for this change. With Curry, he’s a young and inexperienced coach. However, I knew when I was coaching him that he possessed good coaching qualities. He’s bright. He’s a very hard worker. He has good knowledge of the game. He’s only 20-30 games into his first season. He’s been given a real challenge with this trade. Give him time to feel things out.
A coach always wants to have a talented team, but it can be a double edged sword. In this particular case, only getting to the Finals will suffice. That’s a lot of pressure, but, as a coach, I would rather have that pressure than having less talent, and no chance to win.

]]> By: J. Shuttlesworth http://www.basketball.org/pistons-struggles-not-all-iverson/comment-page-1/#comment-885 J. Shuttlesworth Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:48:09 +0000 http://www.basketball.org/?p=1231#comment-885 Isn't some of the problem here with Joe D? I know most Piston faithful will call for my head in saying so but isn't he just hesitating a tad bit on pressing the "blow it up" button? Doesn't he make the coaching and player changes to the team? There are too many problems in Detroit and I am not just talking about having to pay for your drinks at the casinos there. What's up to all my peoples at the MGM Detroit by the way! Sheed is definitely at a place where he only plays when he wants and he is also at a place where he figures shooting 25 footers is the weapon of choice. Rip absolutely is not getting anything set up for him to get going which is a horrible idea because he can put points up on the board simply by running your offense. AI...is a coach killer/team killer...only person worse is Terrell Owens at that job...in Sports history and I am including US SPRINTER Tim Montgomery... There is a good young nucleus...Amir J., Maxiell, Stuckey, etc...I just think they waited about a year or two too long to pull the trigger on making a move... Agree? Isn’t some of the problem here with Joe D?

I know most Piston faithful will call for my head in saying so but isn’t he just hesitating a tad bit on pressing the “blow it up” button?

Doesn’t he make the coaching and player changes to the team?

There are too many problems in Detroit and I am not just talking about having to pay for your drinks at the casinos there. What’s up to all my peoples at the MGM Detroit by the way!

Sheed is definitely at a place where he only plays when he wants and he is also at a place where he figures shooting 25 footers is the weapon of choice.

Rip absolutely is not getting anything set up for him to get going which is a horrible idea because he can put points up on the board simply by running your offense.

AI…is a coach killer/team killer…only person worse is Terrell Owens at that job…in Sports history and I am including US SPRINTER Tim Montgomery…

There is a good young nucleus…Amir J., Maxiell, Stuckey, etc…I just think they waited about a year or two too long to pull the trigger on making a move…

Agree?

]]> By: Mike Payne http://www.basketball.org/pistons-struggles-not-all-iverson/comment-page-1/#comment-884 Mike Payne Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:25:48 +0000 http://www.basketball.org/?p=1231#comment-884 In Detroit, there are plenty calling for Curry's head, and very few blaming Iverson. Just head over to DetroitBadBoys and read Matt Watson's analysis or any of the comment threads. Fans are furious, they know who is to blame here. In Detroit, there are plenty calling for Curry’s head, and very few blaming Iverson. Just head over to DetroitBadBoys and read Matt Watson’s analysis or any of the comment threads. Fans are furious, they know who is to blame here.

]]> By: Should Curry be on the hot seat? | Detroit Bad Boys http://www.basketball.org/pistons-struggles-not-all-iverson/comment-page-1/#comment-882 Should Curry be on the hot seat? | Detroit Bad Boys Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:49:20 +0000 http://www.basketball.org/?p=1231#comment-882 [...] From Jamie at Basketball.org: “In a time where pink slips to NBA head coaches are being handed out as much as federal indictments to Illinois politicians, I am surprised by the lack of criticism on the part of the head coach of the Pistons. Everybody is quick to blame the obvious scapegoat in Iverson, but Curry should be shouldering some of the blame […] Let’s be honest here, the Pistons are obviously talented and I believe that is one attribute any coach would agree on that they want on their team. The Pistons are underachieving and doesn’t that usually point the finger directly at the head coach?” [...] [...] From Jamie at Basketball.org: “In a time where pink slips to NBA head coaches are being handed out as much as federal indictments to Illinois politicians, I am surprised by the lack of criticism on the part of the head coach of the Pistons. Everybody is quick to blame the obvious scapegoat in Iverson, but Curry should be shouldering some of the blame […] Let’s be honest here, the Pistons are obviously talented and I believe that is one attribute any coach would agree on that they want on their team. The Pistons are underachieving and doesn’t that usually point the finger directly at the head coach?” [...]

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